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[ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« on: May 30, 2013, 12:29:57 pm »
This is a thread for discussing the ASCMDVCPT. Please feel free to post any questions or concerns you may have in here and i'll do my best to answer as quickly as possible. or post them on the official thread here

ASCMDVCPT - ASICMiner Devcoin  Pass Through

https://cryptostocks.com/securities/39

Asic Miner DVC Passthrough

DVC = Devcoin
BTC = Bitcoin

This offering is for units of a partnership to hold shares of  Asic Miner.  Each unit will represent 1/1000th of an underlying share.  This is in effect a Asic Miner Passthrough, but operating with DVC as the currency.  These shares may be held directly or a BTC based passthrough.  We will sell our units in DVC. Asic Miner pays out in BTC these BTC will be converted to DVC and in turn passed through to our stakeholders.   An administrative fee of X% may be charged for this service.  These payments will typically be made within a day or two of payment from the underlying assets, to allow us to space out the buy of DVC a bit to get a bit better exchange rates.   These payments will be done within two weeks of receipt of the underlying payment.  There are no voting rights as they are pass through shares.  More shares may be issued if we acquire more underlying backing shares.

FAQ

When would payouts begin?
Payouts start on first receiving of ASICMiner shares dividend payout

Who owns the ASICMiner Shares?

User twobits holds the ASICMiner shares and is responsible for their safety and aquiring more if needs be.
I FuzzyBear will be answering any questions and passing on info from Twobits relating to the listing
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 12:48:04 pm »
9th May 2013 - 3716 shares held publicly, each share paid 4.98833549 DVC
16th May 2013 - 4002 shares held publicly, each share paid 19.82263250 DVC
23rd May 2013 - 4,052 shares held publicly, each share paid 12.19846588 DVC
30th May 2013 - 4,152 shares held publicly, each share paid 21.64328893 DVC
6th June 2013 - 4,219 shares held publicly, each share paid 27.90894522 DVC - Total dividends paid in first month 354,905.78921214 DVC
13th June 2013 - 4,243 shares held publicly, each share paid 34.38255666 DVC
24th June 2013 - 4,243 shares held publicly, each share paid 20.23662303 DVC
26th June 2013 - 4,288 shares held publicly, each share paid 22.16528333 DVC
4th July 2013 - 4,364 shares held publicly, each share paid 28.93082151 DVC
11th July 2013 - 4,364 shares held publicly, each share paid 27.17240263 DVC
18th July 2013 - 4,389 shares held publicly, each share paid 36.57980507 DVC
26th July 2013 - 4,487 shares held publicly, each share paid 47.87741000 DVC
1st August 2013 - 4,509 shares held publicly, each share paid 28.89961953 DVC
8th August 2013 - 4,535 shares held publicly, each share paid 42.15266034 DVC
16th August 2013 - 4,609 shares held publicly, each share paid 39.37365188 DVC
23rd August 2013 - 4,659 shares held publicly, each share paid 23.45942115 DVC
3rd September 2013 - 4,710 shares held publicly, each share paid 29.37595357 DVC
**** Total Dividends paid so far = 2,052,510.92189518 DVC 8) ****
10th September 2013 - 4,720 shares held publicly, each share paid 36.76760657 DVC
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013, 12:48:41 pm »
First Dividend Payout

The first dividends have been paid out to the investors of Asic Miner DVC Passthrough (ASCMDVCPT) each share paid 4.98833549 DVC.

**Note the admin fee has been wavered this month
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013, 12:49:03 pm »
Second Dividend Payout

The second dividends have been paid out to the investors of Asic Miner DVC Passthrough (ASCMDVCPT) each share paid 19.82263250 DVC.

**Note the admin fee has been wavered this month
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PPC: PDtcFPhMa9Hc9zTfoRG7zcURCRpcpRdMym  |  TRC: 1FzdruHpffAeW2ZBctDLwR8P4APVpATu2j  |  FRC: 1BADxscUvT42SFXZwXgxEfWVDHkV1QPTEj
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013, 12:49:58 pm »
Third Dividend Payout

The third dividends have been paid out to the investors of Asic Miner DVC Passthrough (ASCMDVCPT) each share paid 12.19846588 DVC.

**Note the admin fee has been wavered this month
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2013, 08:48:33 pm »
Fourth Dividend Payout

The fourth dividends have been paid out to the investors of Asic Miner DVC Passthrough (ASCMDVCPT) each share paid 21.64328893 DVC.

**Note the admin fee has been wavered this month
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2013, 08:49:10 pm »
Fifth Dividend Payout

The Fifth dividends have been paid out to the investors of Asic Miner DVC Passthrough (ASCMDVCPT) each share paid 27.90894522 DVC.
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2013, 02:35:24 pm »
I am thinking hard about investing some of my Devtome earnings into this but I hesitate because my understanding of mining is limited.  What makes this a better mining investment than others listed on cryptostocks (other than the fact that it is in Devcoins   ;) )?

What else might you say to try to "sell" me on buying shares?
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2013, 03:13:59 pm »
I am thinking hard about investing some of my Devtome earnings into this but I hesitate because my understanding of mining is limited.  What makes this a better mining investment than others listed on cryptostocks (other than the fact that it is in Devcoins   ;) )?

What else might you say to try to "sell" me on buying shares?
It's run by me and a fellow devcoin developer that has done some most excellent work!! need I say more? surely that a selling point in its own right!!

hehe nah i jest and i'll get down off my ego throne.... i'll write up an explanation of why this a sound investment when I get home, but yes I assumed from my perspective that mining was done by pretty much everyone that can and most have knowledge of how it works etc, but i'll write up something nice for u to hopefully cover your questions and give you a better insight into why this has seen such a massive increase in the price of shares and why it is a good investment.

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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2013, 10:14:02 pm »
Thanks, that would be awesome!  I am definitely a nontechnical cryptocoin enthusiast :)

Anytime before July 1st will be great.
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2013, 11:00:29 pm »
I see that the Divend payouts have been increasing as time progresses... that is really good signs!
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2013, 03:20:32 pm »
OK ran out of time all the time, so i'll make a start and add to this as I go along...

But this investment is on a Pass Through.  This basically means that this investment in devcoins is being made to posses a fraction of another share (ASICMiner shares)

Are you aware of ASICMiner?? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0

It was a company that decided to invest in the research of ASIC mining devices, and rather than selling them to the public, they offered a chance for people to buy shares in the company and dividends would be paid out once the ASIC devices were made and started mining.

ASICMiner was the second company to produce a working ASIC, and currently is the ONLY  serious miner on ASIC devices.. though BFL is producing more now and Avalon have shipped some devices, but non of these companies compare to ASICMiner.... ASICMiner is actually the only serious miner that I know of that is still SOLO mining as they have THAT much hashing power... nice little graph here:
https://blockchain.info/pools
Shows them currently on 20% of the total network hashrate!!

So the investment ASCMDVCPT you are getting the chance to spend your devcoins to buy 1/1000th of a ASICMiner share.

We hold the ASICMiner shares... when we receive payouts in BTC on those we put buy orders in on Vircurex and buy as much DVC for the BTC we have and then distribute the DVC to those that have invested. 

Your investment in this mining opperation is different from a lot of other mnining opperations listed on cryptostocks and other share trading sites as this is a direct investment in a company very serious about BTC mining and that currently has the mining devices hashing away for them.

Other investments are for individual setups of rigs, most who are STILL waiting on devices to arrive to mine on (Thanks BFL....) so your investment with them can be seen as a LOT riskier. 

Bear in mind though that the dividend payout is based on 2 factors then... 1) how much btc is paid out from ASICMiner shares (how well ASICMiner is doing) and 2) the value of DVC to BTC (how well DVC is doing)  Note that there has been an increase in the BTC payout from ASICMiner, and a decrease in the value of the DVC, hence this means that there will be the maximum possible increase on the dividend payout, so it has been very good times for the investors in this listing as they have been getting more dividends :) this is probably a reflection on the increase of the stock price.

Your could decide to invest in ASICMiner and buy your own BTC shares.... however we wanted to support devcoin and offer an alternative currency to invest in the largest single BTC miner in existence atm.  Also by this investment we aim to offer some buy orders on the DVC side of Vircurex trading to try to stabilize the price a little, and offer an alternative use for peoples DVC rather than just cashing them out straight to BTC.

Ok hope this answers some questions and raises a few more, so please feel free to ask anything else if you would like me to explain further

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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2013, 02:21:44 pm »
Thanks for this.  I still need to read up on ASIC and there are 400 pages LOL.

in the mean time Cryptostocks site security certificate is expired. I can access site on one device but not my regular computer.  I hope that doesn't mean really major bad news...

EDIT: My other computer gives me the option to proceed anyway. Will have to check it out later when have time...
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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2013, 03:35:25 pm »
Yeah cryptoctocks have had a few little hic ups like this... is disappointing and frustrating, I have messaged on the main Bitcointalk thread but will have to see how long it takes them to resolve it.... I can't access any of it :(

And yeah honestly READ up on ASIC's tonight!! they are starting to flood the network with their superior hashing power, so expect much much turmoil on the difficulty of all SHA-256 coins and their value.  There will be a lot of unhappy strarting off miners investing in GPU's thinking they can see a ROI on their cards they have just bought... but only script coins will be left for them to mine in any sort of break even on electricity... but even those are worthless or have high difficulty.... but feel free to ask any questions u like and i'll see what I can answer... been in the ASIC race since august 2012 ... been a LONG old journey but the end s near and surprised that the number of people into BTC and no knowledge or little of ASIC's ... (not you as u are not a miner, but others who jumped in and bought rigs with little or no thought on what the network hashrate was gonna do and where the technology is at..)

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Re: [ANN] [DVC] ASCMDVCPT Cryptostock Investment
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2013, 10:37:54 pm »
I am in research mode now.  Fascinating.  Anyway, I thought I would post questions as they come up, which may lead to some double posting (apologies in advance).

I now understand thanks to furuknap's blog what pass through means, as well as that most of the asicminer shares people can buy are PT.  So I wanted to know if you hold 5 actual shares which you are PT'ing to people buying ascmdvcpt shares or if your shares are also pass through.  If u do hold actual asicminer (not PT) shares, do u have/can u get more in case asicmdvcpt gets really popular for buy and hold types?

I have also figured out that I can purchase asicminer pt shares and hundreths of shares on btct.co, and I may do both that and asicmdvcpt shares--I really like the idea of not having to first trade out my devcoins, though.

Thanks again for the education and for pointing me in the direction of the right resources to finally start feeling like I can understand in a nontechnical way what is going on with btc mining.  I have dabbled into mining just using one of my home computers and a general mining pool, have not bought any specialized equipment, and yes I have noticed that even from march when I first got into btc and now the difficulty has increaed astronomically.  I chalked it up to just more people getting into it diluting the reward, but now I see it may well be because of ASIC, that turmoil you mentioned. I think at this point I would prefer to benefit from mining without having to actually do it--hence the attractiveness of these asicminer shares.

I will go back to reading... thanks for being willing to answer my questions, and please keep in touch.  I am sure I will have plenty more.



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